The Son Of Man Is Lifted Up For Our Sins

Primary Text: Numbers 21:4-9; John 3:14-18

Since this day is what it is, it would be worthwhile to discuss the death of Jesus on the cross as well as the resurrection of the body three days hence. If one looks at Scripture as a whole, there are many indications of the purpose of Christ all throughout the Scripture. Jesus even proclaimed that the Old Testament testifies about Him (John 5:39), and that he was around before the time of Abraham (John 8:58). It can be said that there was always hope of a Messiah. Every part of Scripture speaks to Christ. The Old Testament speaks of the hope of the coming Messiah. The Gospels speak of the Messiah that is here. The rest of the New Testament speaks of the return of the Messiah. Christ is within the pages of the Old Testament if we just choose to look for Him.

And they journeyed from mount Hor by the way of the Red sea, to compass the land of Edom: and the soul of the people was much discouraged because of the way. And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread. And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord, and against thee; pray unto the Lord, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived. (Numbers 21:4-9)

The Israelites are traveling on their way to the promised land of Canaan and spoke against Moses and God, grumbling about their food and water. The judgment from the Lord was the removal of protection regarding the snakes that were present in the desert. This judgment was not final since Moses prayed for the people and the Lord gave them mercy by having them put a snake upon a pole. Those that looked at the snake lived. Does this sound a whole lot like Christ to you? It should! Christ, Himself mentioned this connection.

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:14-18)

1. The serpents represent the presence and punishment of sin.

As verse 14 mentions, as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up! The people sinned by grumbling against the Lord, so we have the Lord responding by sending fiery serpents among the people. The fiery serpent is an interesting image. It brings to mind that it was a serpent that deceived Adam and Eve in Genesis 3. The serpent is most certainly a representation of Satan as Revelation tells us:

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Revelation 12:9)

Sin brings sure death upon each of us, as these snakes did the Israelites when they were bitten. The wages of sin are death (Romans 6:23)!

2. The bronze serpent on the pole represents the sacrificed Christ.

The Lord could have forgiven them right away and healed the ones that were bitten by the poisonous snakes, but He directed something different. He told Moses to make a bronze snake, put it on a pole, and lift it up in the camp. Any one that was bitten by a snake could look upon it and live. Why a bronze snake? We are told in 2 Corinthians 5:21: “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” But this bronze snake was harmless as Christ is – Christ had no sin. Christ’s feet were described to be glowing like bronze in a furnace (Revelation 1:15). Christ was made a curse (Galatians 3:13) as the serpent was cursed.

When the people went to look upon this bronze snake, they were forgiven, healed and lived. When we look to Christ as the Israelites looked to this bronze snake, we are forgiven of our sins we have which leads to death, of all those sicknesses of the spirit which bring death.

3. Looking upon the bronze snake in faith represents the belief required on Christ for salvation.

Since there is not a figure of Christ hanging up on a cross to look at for healing of sins, it is revealed that the purpose of the snake was never a function of the act of looking at it, but of faith and belief. In faith and belief, the cross of Christ is always there to look at if there is faith enough to seek it. Remember that Israel numbered around 630,000 men (Numbers 26:51) – add women and children and the number would go around 1.2 million. The act of looking upon the bronze snake on the pole was not an easy one. It would require a journey with the belief that looking upon the snake would heal the person of being bit. Certainly, some died simply for not believing they would be healed by making this journey.

Isn’t this like some of us in this world today? How many Israelites believed that the fact the snakes bit them were due to their sins and not happenstance? How many don’t see that they’ve been bitten by sin? They go through life with all the pain and misery within their souls, but never realize that the snake of sin bit them. They deceive themselves that the snake of sin never bit them at all. They deceive themselves into thinking the sicknesses of sin in their lives burning through their souls are caused by other things. How many see their sins, see the loss within their souls, but don’t believe enough to take the journey in their hearts to the cross of Jesus Christ?

Many Israelites didn’t take that journey to go see that bronze snake, just as many people today don’t take the journey to come to the foot of the cross. Perhaps the worst fate one of these Israelites could face was to know the snake bit them, feel what is going on, and know why the snake bit them, but not have the faith to take the journey to go look upon the bronze snake. This echoes the worst fate that could befall anyone today: To know about Christ, see their sins in front of them, and yet don’t come to the foot of the cross for whatever reason they might have that keeps them from taking that action step in faith.

4. We all have this snake problem in our lives.

Romans 3:23 says that “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God”. Each of us have been bitten by these snakes we call sin and have had that venom from sin flowing within our souls. Each of us have that opportunity to recognize those things and seek healing through Jesus, who has been lifted up to become sin for each and every one of us who comes to him in belief. The only thing that keeps us from making that journey is ourselves. The same forgiveness and saving of death is there always when we seek Him out.

As Jesus concludes in John 3:17-18, God had no desires to condemn the world, and therefore sent this chance at forgiveness of sins and healing through Christ, much like He had no desires to fully condemn all the Israelites for their transgressions. God wishes that no one find that condemnation and death. Whichever Israelite that believed enough in the snake to go see it when bitten found healing and forgiveness, just as we can go to the foot of the cross of Christ today.

There were Israelites that didn’t have that faith to go look at the bronze snake, just as there are those today don’t have the faith and desire to go to the foot of the cross of Christ in belief. The Israelites that didn’t believe in looking at the bronze snake died, just as those of us that don’t believe in Christ will be condemned. None of us wish that upon people, and most certainly, God doesn’t wish that upon anybody. 2 Peter 3:9 says that “the Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”

The only thing keeping anyone from coming to Christ, being forgiven, and being healed of our sins is themselves. Christ is there to believe in always. You need to just make that journey so you can look upon him on the cross.

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Dealing With The Red Pill Truth

(I originally had this in mind for a comment, but had enough other ideas to turn it into a full post.)

In reading this and reflecting on things regarding this blog and my life being a red pill Christian, there are things that come to mind. They can be especially reflective for one such as myself who for almost the last year has been directly seeking out red pill boosters in some form for the purposes of doing blog posts. I’ve noticed there’s usually no shortage of topics simply because some kind of red pill reinforcement comes across my screen or life each and every day.

Now I use the term “red pill” in both the manosphere marriage sense and the traditional Christian sense, since the process for me has been one and the same. The fact that marriage today isn’t the same as the one our great to the nth power parents knew or the one in Scripture is essentially the manosphere “red pill”, but is also a Christian red pill since the churches and “traditional Christians” (i.e. Churchians) are upholding the new definition of marriage. Much of the reason why the Church has lost her way, along with God-given marriage being corrupted has to do with feminism (or female-supremacist hate), so there are a great many posts here regarding how marriage has been corrupted both within the Church and in the world. In fact, I’ve been working on a Marriage 2.0 master page, but it’s been difficult in being sure to cover all the nuances. But all these “red pills” always have to do with men taking their own initiative and thinking they know better than God, especially with the things of God.

There’s always some truth that has eluded you until the Holy Spirit illuminates you. Ones like me or Dalrock or others can not give you this truth. We can only show you the doors. When you walk through that door, you find through that truth that the worldview you had was completely different than the one you assumed was correct. As a rule, it seems we as humans readily accept what we are presented with without questioning it. Of course the degree we are able to assimilate new truths and unlearn the old ones is a direct reflection of where you place your base values. If you value the church organization or men, or the things of the world, your actions will follow you there, and your legacy will be written in that way before both men and God. This is an iron clad principle.

In accepting a red pill truth of any kind, the priorities of your heart are bound to come out. In other words, your main priority will guide you. If you are devoted in your time with the Lord, he will choose to reveal a number of things to you through His Spirit, His Scripture and the interaction with others over long periods. These things often involve sins or transgressions and even those in the world will have a sense of justice regarding these things. Justice involves the balancing of a wrong done against them, and the red pills are definitely things to be angry and grieve over. These are things that are either easier or harder depending on how deep people were in around you, how deep in you were, and how much damage it’s done to you or those around you. When it comes to realizing a red pill truth, you ultimately have one decision to make. Either accept (take the red pill) or deny it (take the blue pill). When it comes to spiritual matters, the only choice a true follower of Christ is given is to take the red pill by repenting. To take the blue pill by denying what is being presented to you or rationalizing it away as men are wont to do with his own tradition is to grieve the Spirit, which leads you to no place good in the end.

Now accepting the truth by coming into the light brings the question of how you act in your life with the new truth incorporated. Of course, the obvious first answer is to turn permanently from those actions and do not accept them in your life. The problem with that is dealing with the anger that comes from it. You might have to give up friends, or other things in order to be right with the Lord. They may be in so deep that you can’t help but to be angered and grieved. Personally, I still have a hard time being around certain things from the winter solstice to the spring equinox simply because of a particular red pill truth. Anger is normal at the sight of injustice. The Lord is slow to anger, but He will get angry. It is okay for us to be angry if we do not sin in it, but the problem comes in giving it a place in your life. As it is written:

Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you. (Ephesians 4:31-32)

This is a continual temptation and challenge when you do assimilate a red pill truth, simply because there are so many occasions out there to be grieved and angry over what you see and take it out on people in a way that doesn’t honor God. The temptation also comes from forgetting the red pill truth, as it is easy to do when you hang around people with bad habits, and start taking up their ways again. There are numerous examples out there of such people succumbing to this particular temptation of wanting to be plugged back into the Matrix. There are people who will be actively seeking to have others forget the Red Pill Truth, and go back to accepting certain behaviors and practices that you didn’t before you started down the other path.

This brings me back to Dalrock’s post. One of these tools is confusing the difference between righteous anger and unrighteous bitterness. Perhaps the biggest issue that I had with it is that it veers suspiciously close to Code Red feminist shaming language in parts, though Dalrock did clarify in part in his post. Obviously, the feminists (and for that matter those of the world) use this tactic, which is well illustrated in the comments of that post because it works. It pushes people away from the thought of their sin and onto the person themselves. It causes the sin to be ignored and not be dealt with. It pushes people away from righteousness into unrighteousness, because it paints people as not being right to be disgusted by the sins of this world and within Churchianity. If one who claims to follow Christ ever doesn’t become disgusted and even angry when sin is involved, that is a serious indicator to check your heart and even check your heart to see whether Christ is with you. Passive or active (empathy) acceptance of true evil in the sight of God is not a virtue! It’s sin! “No you’re a bitter hateful misogynist!” “You better stop your bitterness and hatred of women, that’s not attractive!”

The ultimate temptation in looking at these things involves when people prosper in them or others aid them in prospering. This is illustrated in the comments as well. It can be frustrating to see people help others in their sin. This generated a good discussion on that comment thread, as well as such an issue might.

In the end, the only answer is to let it go into the hands of the Lord each time it happens and trust in Him that He will deal with it accordingly, not grow to accept the sin. For after all, men are going to chase after their own ways instead of God’s and prosper. Men are going to worship other gods, even in the guise of “Christianity” and not find ill for it right away. Sluts are gonna slut around and land in a good marriage by their deceit. Manginas are going to self-flagellate and spit on God for making them men. White-knights are going to ride to the rescue and save women from the consequences of their own actions. Women are going to rebel against God and spit on Him and their husbands. Even the so-called good traditional Christian women like Sheila Gregoire are going to deny the Lord by denying His Scripture and foment rebellion in other women against the Lord by teaching them how to spindle and destroy men with Marriage 2.0 rather than glorify God in Biblical marriage.

The Lord was very clear that these things are going to happen, without any doubt. But there’s nothing that says I got to walk away from Him and accept and support these things in these people to get away from my “bitterness”.

May God’s name and His ways be praised always!

The True Proverbs 31 Woman

In the previous post on the topic, the perception of the Proverbs 31 woman within feminism was described. The Feminist Proverbs 31 Idol was discussed along with the typical problems with such a definition. It also described the common misconception from the Proverbs 31 woman that all women get wrong – the location of her work along with the burden of her work. In other words, the career woman and the stay-at-home woman who burdens the husband with all the provision of the home are both wrong in the sight of God. This post will deal with the true definition of the Proverbs 31 woman by laying out a number of principles that the true Proverbs 31 woman adheres to in her life.

1. The Proverbs 31 woman is an obtainable and expected thing before the Lord to please Him as a wife.

There are those who do not seek to conform themselves to the Scriptures declaring the proper behavior of wives. They will declare the pursuing of laudable Biblical behavior to be an idol in itself, and will dismiss this Scripture along with the rest of what Scripture has to say. For example, this blogger writes:

She pointed out that desiring perfection in your life (i.e. the Proverbs 31 woman for me) can become an idol and we should guard against this. wow. What a striking thought. I should strive to be more like Christ and not make another human the focus of my attentions even if that person is in the Bible as a good example. Christ first.

And this blogger writes:

Amy makes an excellent point and caution that when we work and strive and pursue this Proverbs 31 woman so intensely, we have made her an idol in our lives. We have made this image something we spend all our time and energy chasing after, believing that if we can grab a hold of it, God will be pleased with us.

Wrong.

God is already pleased with you. Not because you’re perfect, but because you’re His. And He would much rather have you spend that kind of time seeking hard after Him.

And Sheila Gregoire writes:

One other thing about how to act biblically in marriage: there are two sides to the Proverbs 31 woman. First, yes, she did a ton and cared for her family well. But second, she had help, as someone pointed out in the comments yesterday. She had servant girls, but she also had a husband who was engaged in the family business, too. He was in the public square, transacting business, where he praised her. Yes, we’re to be the Proverbs 31 woman, but it’s difficult to do all of this without at least some help. If you don’t have that help, I think you need to readjust what’s expected of you so you don’t burn out.

Note these bloggers (all female) rationalization hamsters spin into overdrive and find excuses to not follow Proverbs 31 faithfully (as they do any of God’s commandments that offend their feminist sensibilities by doing good towards husbands or men in general), but it’s their personal Jesuses they are speaking of and not the true Christ depicted in the Scriptures. Notice how they spin their ways out of actually having to follow after the Proverbs 31 woman, because they are feminists who are rebelling against the full dictates of God. The Proverbs 31 woman is the full embodiment of the expectation that the Lord places upon wives, for this properly represents the Church in her marriage to Christ. These women need to remember that those who Jesus calls His friends and declares to abide in His love the ones who keep His commandments. These women need to repent before the Lord!

2. The Proverbs 31 woman provides for her family, those who serve her family, and the poor and needy.

The idea that the husband should be the exclusive provider for the entire family was debunked in the previous post. The Proverbs 31 woman is depicted very clearly as contributing to the provision of her whole family through her own labor as much as the husband contributes:

13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.
20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.
24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

These verses relate to the production of clothing (though food can be implied in other verses as well). She ensured that she was working by seeking wool and flax, spinning it into thread, and then weaving cloth for various uses. She ensured not only her family had clothing suitable for whatever conditions, but tapestry and linen and had enough to sell and give to the poor and needy, and does not restrict herself to the necessities of life (the example of the vineyard). The clear principle is that the Proverbs 31 woman is to work in provision for the good of her family within the home environs and is to not be idle. The scarlet reference in verse 21 can be extended to the Church’s relationship with Christ in clothing herself with the blood of Christ.

3. The Proverbs 31 woman has a diligent work ethic.

13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
14 She is like the merchants’ ships; she bringeth her food from afar.
15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.
17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.
18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.
27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

The Proverbs 31 woman works willingly at whatever task she might be called to do. She is diligent to sell her resources if she might purchase something. She rises early to take care of any resources that any of her family or the servants (if present) needs for their tasks of the day, and stays up late at night if there are tasks to be accomplished by that day. She takes care of her own health and strength in her life. She is by no means idle in any way if her labor is called upon for any reason. She works the same as her children or her servants if she has them.

4. The Proverbs 31 woman is wise in both her speech and action.

18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.
25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.
26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.
27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

The Proverbs 31 woman takes care to provide quality in what she produces as she realizes this is the wisest course both with her family and with those she would sell her goods to in the marketplace. She realizes that a good moral character and outlook represented by her speech and actions is not only the best course for her but all involved in her household.

5. The Proverbs 31 woman fears the Lord. As a result, she is found trustworthy and given praise by all for her works.

10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.
12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.
28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.
30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.
31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.

The Proverbs 31 woman is a virtuous woman in the sight of the Lord and others. The husband is blessed by her in her efforts, so much so that he has no need or worry to gain resources through the spoil of others. He has no concern of whether she will do him good or evil in anything regarding the family. She submits to Him in all things and does not undercut Him or rebel against Him. She is trusted to take care of major family business without his direct intervention, so much so that her husband can devote his business to sitting in the gates as a respected judge, reflecting the order of his household. She recognizes that her true worth and praise comes from her fear of the Lord, not from her outer adornment. She also recognizes that her husband has been placed by the Lord as her head and one who will give account for her (her husband will be the one to determine before the Lord whether she is a good wife), so she remembers this in her fear of the Lord by submitting to her husband and doing good by him. Her good qualities in the Lord are seen as blessed by her children and her husband.

May any woman that sets herself as a Proverbs 31 woman in the fear of the Lord find the fruit of praise before the Lord and men by her deeds!

Man-Up and Marry Level 2: Re-Education

I don’t usually look at direct secular articles for the focus of this blog, but this article written by “J.R. Bruns M.D.” on Psychology Today (H/T) is very enlightening on how men are seen in society today, both in the realm of Churchianity and in greater society.

Dr. Bruns begins by describing some of the methods that society has used against men in attempting to shame them into marriage. These things exist in Churchianity as well. He goes on and laments the fact that the shaming hasn’t been working and points out the divorce culture as the sole reason behind it:

The 150% increase in never married men ages 40-44 over the last three decades indicates that the societal shaming mentioned above isn’t working. Pierce College social scientist and lecturer John Fergus argues that because half of all marriages end in divorce, the popular knowledge of this grim statistic has had a “chilling effect” on single adults, making them fearful of relationships.

Despite the fact that 70-90% of divorces are initiated by the woman (depending on where you are and who you talk to) mostly for frivolous reasons, the answer always comes back to the men not playing “their part”. The by-line is particularly instructive as to their attitude:

Can society get men back in line?

The use of this phrase suggests that men are being out-of-line (or improper) for not choosing to marry. In other words, they are not behaving by submitting themselves to the indignity of Marriage 2.0 with a woman.

Dr. Bruns’ answer to this is instructive as well:

Education, rather than shame, is the answer if society wants to increase the number of husbands in America.

Rather than fixing the injustice and abuse that women and society bring upon men who are in marriage (let’s face it, modern marriage is a raw deal for men), they blame the men. Rather than eliminating the emasculation of men in society, they blame the men. Rather than hold women accountable for their actions and quality of character so they can be worth marrying, instead of supporting them when they have zero marriage value, they blame the men. Rather than reinforcing the commitment that marriage entails with women and ensuring they are marrying for the marriage and not for the wedding, they blame the men. Rather than eliminate the divorce culture and get the State out of marriage, they blame the men. Rather than eliminate the use of marriage as a wealth re-distribution vehicle where men lose their house, children, life savings (legalized theft), and in many cases their very lives (incidence of suicide among divorced men is very high), they blame the men. Rather than remove the life and death consequences of the failure of marriage, they blame the men. Rather than eliminate the gender bigotry and hatred against men in society that Dr. Bruns and so many others illustrate, they blame the men. Rather than address that women are looking for only attraction through serial monogamy (“the tingles”) and racking up dozens of partners, they blame the men for not following the old compatibility song and dance that guarantees failure in a marriage with the modern woman:

Men and women must become enlightened to the fact that the central conflict in the war between the sexes is not about sexual attraction and charm but compatibility.

I can keep going on here with these. Rather than correct society and women, they blame the men. I 10% jokingly use the phrase re-education, but it is more apt. This is especially true since men are avoiding marriage because they are educating themselves about it. Men are being activists and contrarian by not playing along with the will of the feminists and the will of women and the government to be personally controlled by a woman, and ultimately support women in their feminism. I’ve written before that I believe the day will come that men will be given a choice between death and emasculation to a woman in Marriage 2.0 (either directly or being taxed into oblivion for being a bachelor) when the marriage and birth rates get low enough.

The comments are more instructive and interesting reading especially in the fact that men are showing they are indeed educated about the benefits and risks of marriage. True education, whether it be through reading or experience shows that marriage is a bad deal.

When there is a game that you can’t win and the costs of losing are so high, the only winning move is not to play. But that’s being “out-of-line” and “improper”. If there is any doubt of what the feminist society at large and those within Churchianity think of you as a man, reading this along with the comments should remove all doubt. Men are exclusively focused by both the secular parties and the Churchians simply because the men are the only ones not playing along with the plan:

1. Your sole purpose in life is to serve women, more specifically one woman who you marry in Marriage 2.0, who you are not supposed to put any conditions upon in marrying and are supposed to appear when she is ready. You submit to her and serve all her needs at the expense of everything you are. You are to demand nothing in return from her or society as a whole for doing anything of this nature.
2. Once she tires of you (i.e. “the tingles” stop) and she has her children, she divorces you, takes everything you own and your children and uses the State to confiscate your wealth long into the future.
3. You are supposed to joyfully and willingly agree to this.

But the woman is the victim in all of this, when the men won’t play along. Always. It’s a wicked game that’s an affront to God and what He intended in marriage. It’s okay to choose to not buy into the plan. It’s okay to count the costs of Marriage 2.0 and not buy into it.

The Idol of the Proverbs 31 Woman

In studying marriage and the changes it has gone through between the Biblical definition and the Marriage 2.0 definition, I’ve found it interesting to dig back and see what marriage was like before the feminists got hold of it. Given that, perhaps the best place to start in Scripture seems to be Proverbs 31 in looking at the so-called Proverbs 31 woman. This is true since feminists of all stripes have grabbed onto it and have twisted it into more knots than a bag of pretzels. I have no interest in a full dissertation on that section of Scripture (Proverbs 31:10-31) at this time, but am interested in its historical interpretation and the deviation from it.

The Evangelical Feminist Idol
I’ve referred to it as the “Proverbs 31 Idol” in the past simply with the view of what the modern evangelical feminists have done with the Scripture. They point to it as their justification for Marriage 2.0 and career (the feminist merit badge). Empathologism writes:

Proverbs 31 has been up-defined far beyond what it actually says. The narrative of the evangelical feminist is that they fear the abuses of the man to whom they would otherwise submit, and look here at this woman in 31, she didn’t submit in fact she ran her own fields, etc. etc. The scripture fits perfectly well with Ephesians ordered marriage if they would allow it to do so. It highlights a woman doing what a woman should do under an Ephesians ordered marriage, there is no conflict there, no contradiction.

There is a Proverbs 31 Ministry which embodies these twisted and warped things attached to Proverbs 31 by traditional feminists. Comparing their principles with the full counsel of Scripture reveals that they are seriously off message. There is nothing about the Proverbs 31 woman that is inconsistent with the rest of the counsel of Scripture on marriage.

The Ignored Quality of The Proverbs 31 Woman
I’ve observed that the tipping point for marriage moving away from the Biblical model to Marriage 2.0 was a global event in society. The Industrial Revolution shifted things from an agrarian/tradesman model to an industrial model where tradesmen and craftsmen were replaced by the laborer. This shift not only brought the husband outside of the home for extended periods of time (12-15 hours), but also brought the previous production of the wife for the family out into the factory. If she did not work in the factory (she and the children might if the family was poor), she was relieved of much of her work-load. As Alexandra Kollontai writes:

The woman did everything that the modern working and peasant woman has to do, but besides this cooking, washing, cleaning and mending, she spun wool and linen, wove cloth and garments, knitted stockings, made lace, prepared – as far as her resources permitted – all sorts of pickles, jams and other preserves for winter, and manufactured, her own candles. It is difficult to make a complete list of all her duties. That is how our mothers and grandmothers lived.

But capitalism has changed all this. All that was formerly produced in the bosom of the family is now being manufactured on a mass scale in workshops and factories. The machine has superseded the wife. What housekeeper would now bother to make candles, spin wool or weave, cloth? All these products can be bought in the shop next door, formerly every girl would learn to knit stockings. Nowadays, what working woman would think of making her own?

Proverbs 31 tells us similar things:

She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands. She is like the merchants’ ships; she bringeth her food from afar. (v13-14)

She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard. (v16)

She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff. (v19)

She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet. (v21)

She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple. (v22)

She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant. (v24)

It should be obvious that a wife should be a net producer in her family and not a net consumer. But given the average situation, it left women at home with a lot of time on their hands and very little to do towards the provision for their families. This time period marks the rise in power of traditional feminism, the increasing feminisation of the Church, and its growth in influence into the government and secular realm. Douglas Wilson summarizes the situation that has resulted from the rise of industrialism:

The first was the rise of a sentimental and domestic feminism. Prior to the industrial revolution, the role of women in America was at the center of the economy. Women managed the home, manufactured the cloth,
processed the food, fed the entire family, etc.

But with the rise of industrialized wealth, the role of women shifted from producing to consuming. The women were, in effect, disestablished—and became decorative. Middle class women became a new leisure class, with money to spend, and time to fill.

Analysis Of The Roles
These camps are delineated today by the conflict that occurs between traditional and secular feminists. These role choices are the stay-at-home wife, or the career wife. Alexandra Kollontai was able to point out in 1920 the effect that having a working mother had on the family:

The family breaks down as more and more women go out to work. How can one talk about family life when the man and woman work different shifts, and where the wife does not even have the time to prepare a decent meal for her offspring? How can one talk of parents when the mother and father are out working all day and cannot find the time to spend even a few minutes with their children? . . . Nowadays the working woman hastens out of the house early in the morning when the factory whistle blows. When evening comes and the whistle sounds again, she hurries home to scramble through the most pressing of her domestic tasks. Then it’s oil to work again the next morning, and she is tired from lack of sleep. For the married working woman, life is as had as the workhouse. It is not surprising therefore that family ties should loosen and the family begin to fall apart.

As communist propaganda, it is very predictive, since feminism has its influences in Marxism/Communism. Kollontai foresees the destruction of the family and the upbringing of the children by the State. She sees the freedom of women from house work and ties to a husband as an important step.

Is the current state of the average stay-at-home wife, whose husband works while she does not produce for the family, any better? As described in the “Proverbs 31 woman”, the noble wife used to provide for the family along with the husband. Note that child care and cleaning are not mentioned in that passage, but legitimate production and provision of goods. Besides the issue of idle hands that has already been presented, the other problem that is created is one of entitlement (“deserving and demanding”). It is an issue that frequently comes with the lack of recognition of grace, especially when it comes to the feeling that one deserves something (or has a sense of entitlement). This sense of entitlement that is in these idle women is not supported by Scripture:

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread. (2 Thessalonians 3:10-12)

And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not. (1 Timothy 5:13)

And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart. (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house: Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.) (Proverbs 7:10-12)

The sense of entitlement to arrogance which has marked most all women in their attitudes towards men has come from this very thing. Lgrobins deals with the case of Lydia:

Don’t certain women think the same thing about men? That men should always be making money, always slaving away for them, or they have no value.

This single change in the dynamic of Marriage 1.0 where the wife is not expected to provide in a marriage is perhaps the most devastating in the change-over to Marriage 2.0, and the most damaging upon men. While wives might have started out being gracious for the uneven sacrifice that men undertook in this new form of marriage, they have become entitled and arrogant and have used government and the Church to get it no matter what the cost.

It has come to pass that every woman deserves a workhorse slave husband of her very own when she’s ready for him and how dare there be men that don’t give it over gladly to them! They just aren’t good men! Good men know that they exist on the earth for the sole purpose to fear women and keep their commandments! That’s the Marriage 2.0 way!

Neither group can lay legitimate claim to the “Proverb 31 woman” today.

Random Comments and Stuff #2

In doing the last post, I came across a number of random items and things I wanted to address. I also came across a handful of good comments. So here goes.


First off, there’s the question of what I mean by “vagina addiction”, along with 1 Corinthians 7:9. The issue has been addressed directly here and originally described here, and referred to here.

The problem seems to come in describing the lack of self-control a man has around a woman versus the lack of the ability to abstain. This is how I interpret 1 Corinthians 7:9 – if you can’t abstain from fornication, go ahead and marry. I don’t disagree with this. The problem comes when there’s a lack of moderation, which I’ve noted here, as the traditional feminists routinely use 1 Corinthians 7:9 as a tool to subjugate men by taking their choices away and encouraging them to let their sexuality control them instead of controlling their sexuality. Besides, as documented before, the wife will routinely withhold sexual access as a means of controlling the husband in Marriage 2.0 anyway – so marriage is not a guarantee of proper sexual access anyway. Not to mention life circumstances that might limit sexual activity.

So in recognition of the traditional feminists using sexuality as a means of control in Marriage 2.0, I used the term vagina addiction. Addiction being a state past moderation where one loses all control of themselves in pursuit of whatever the target of the addiction is. This is to get around the vulgarity of the more familiar colloquial term (for mixed company) that has been used for this – p****-whipped. This is the term men have routinely shamed one with in the past (I heard it much as a child from the adults in non-mixed company). I haven’t heard it in long enough a time that I thought it was out of usage, especially since Marriage 2.0 and the feminist agenda has been so widely adopted, but Google proved me different. Even more surprising is that I haven’t heard it in the manosphere since you’d think it’d be a perfect topic. The articles in the top 10 results on Google are mainly definition oriented, but the two I found were Leykis and a PUA site, which unfortunately says something:

Tom Leykis writing on one of Playboy’s websites
The PUA Site

It might be a worthy topic to pursue some more (and I think Dalrock was making a step towards it). But…poll time!


In thinking on this post, reading this one gave me good opportunity to think on what I wrote. Maybe I’m sticking into the evangelical boxes a little too much and not thinking on reality. If one thinks enough, egalitarianism isn’t possible, so everyone ultimately is complementarian. So the question becomes which one you are. Do men complement women or women complement men? Scripture provides the easy answer:

And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. (Genesis 2:18)

It’s not enough to just say you are complementarian, but back it up on which one you are. Usually most that claim complementarianism believe the man should complement the woman and be the value-add for her and not vice-versa. This really is the big issue that is ignored and needs repented of in traditionalist feminist circles. Marriage simply brings no value or benefit to a man in this day and age, other than the religious sexual overtones (I don’t mention children or two-parent families here because of the prevalence of divorce and the fact that it’s been legally established that the children are HERS and the only function of the husband is a walking ATM). When I write that women have all the benefits and men have all the responsibilities, this is the case all across the board, not just in divorce situations.


Some good comment traffic:
Hollenhund writes:

It’s simple. The sisterhood of HUS wants to return to 1983. The sisterhood of Churchianity wants to return to 1953. And the tiny sisterhood of reactionary Christianity wants to return to 1913. That’s pretty much the only difference between them. Their gynocentric mentality is essentially the same.

In other words:

  • The secular feminists want to return to 1983 when people were oblivious to the problems of the hook-up culture and full-on Marriage 2.0.
  • The late traditional feminists want to return to 1953 when people were not hooking-up and basically accepted the religious veneer of Marriage 2.0 without question.
  • The early traditional feminists want to return to 1913 when people basically followed the Marriage 1.0 model, but were still favored over men in what they had to contribute towards marriage and society.

I’m partial to 1853 or so myself.

Some other stuff:
Welcome back to the comment boxes, Sunshinemary
Infowarrior’s post, (H/T Dalrock)
Deti usually never disappoints for good comment box reading. This one on women expecting men to white-knight for them and bear the responsibility for them when they get themselves into trouble is pure gold.

The Positive Action is the Negative

One of the criticisms that’s been leveled at me recently is that I focus too much on what is wrong and not on positive things regarding how we should be. There’s one problem with that. We are told before the Lord to repent. This occurs much too much in Scripture to not be missed.

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:38)

However, we must recognize that this is a continual process as the Holy Spirit illuminates us on what God’s truth is. A proper walk in the Spirit and not in the world and flesh will reveal ever more things that we need to correct. However, the trend is always against Sola Scriptura, specifically against Solus Christus, and we need to justify ourselves and our ways over what God has dictated. In other words, our ways and our thoughts and our traditions are upheld over what Christ dictated. We want to follow men instead of follow God.

If we see evil in the world, we should not expect to change things if we do not set ourselves apart as holy before Christ. This difference between men and God is especially shown out in how the story of Gideon is taught. Typically people who teach always jump to the story of the fleece, the winnowing of the 22000 to 300, and the blowing of trumpets and breaking of pitchers in the Lord saving the people from the Midianites. But they always seem to leave out the step of repentance, as they leave out of just about every teaching. This is not only unfortunate, but dangerous and destructive, for all the stories of Scripture are given to us as examples so we do not follow the same paths that they did:

Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. (1 Corinthians 10:11-12)

For the story of Gideon, we are introduced to him by the Lord coming to him, pledging the end of the Midianites, and then having Gideon prepare a sacrifice which the Lord then burns. While this is all typically taught when the subject of Gideon comes up, the next section is conveniently skipped over. Unfortunately, it also happens to be the most important before the Lord:

And it came to pass the same night, that the Lord said unto him, Take thy father’s young bullock, even the second bullock of seven years old, and throw down the altar of Baal that thy father hath, and cut down the grove that is by it: And build an altar unto the Lord thy God upon the top of this rock, in the ordered place, and take the second bullock, and offer a burnt sacrifice with the wood of the grove which thou shalt cut down. Then Gideon took ten men of his servants, and did as the Lord had said unto him: and so it was, because he feared his father’s household, and the men of the city, that he could not do it by day, that he did it by night. (Judges 6:24-27)

Gideon had to sanctify himself before the Lord in His direction by taking down the altar of Baal that he would have likely worshiped at with his family and put an altar to the Lord in its place. These kinds of things are almost always never taught. But if we are of the world, we shouldn’t expect to change the world by the world’s ways. If you are of the world, the love of the Father is not in you. Do not expect to be approved in the Lord’s sight if you do not love Him and the things that come from Him! Love what He loves and hate what He hates! You want to abide in Jesus’ love and be His friend? Do what He says! Uphold what He says! Supporting and being silent over sin is just the same as participating in it! When they are you and you are they, don’t expect any light to be brought into the world! When the salt is spoiled, don’t expect it to be any good for anyone!

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love. (John 15:10)

Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. (John 15:14)

This brings me to the topic of marriage. While the idea was originally given by God, as with anything given by God, man gets his hands into it and thinks he can do better and remakes it in his image. Then to go on and say that the remade marriage (Marriage 2.0) is something of God is completely disgusting and an abomination! But why things are the way they are is that men are off doing their own things and not doing what God has done. While the post itself is a good organization of some previous material that is very familiar, some of the comments are pure gold in this respect. Earl writes, illustrating the issue, albeit indirectly:

I’m in a religion that clearly says fornication is a sin.

All the churches clearly *say* this (along with divorce being wrong and the like), the difference is whether it’s actually done. Repentance is a literal turning of action. I can read something all day and say it, even God’s words, but if one isn’t going to make themselves holy and not accept fornication in their sight, it’s fruitless. This is hard-heartedness, which is wickedness before the Lord. Anonymous writes of this same thing. If you are going to internalize wickedness, don’t be surprised when you get a wicked result. Of course, these men are doing what they are doing with the belief they are doing the will of the Lord. Which makes them even more dangerous! But what are they doing? They are putting women before the Lord. They are submitting to their wives’ will instead of submitting to the Lord as they should be. They are vagina addicted, seeking to please women instead of pleasing God.

Now to move to what Scripture gives as examples of such things. We can look in terms of the sacrifice and see examples of how the Lord dealt with it. As marriage is a symbol and testimony from God, the same as the sacrifice is, this is good. Scripture tells us of the sons of Eli and how they were not dealt with for corrupting the sacrifice before the Lord. The whole story can be found, starting with 1 Samuel 2, but this passage tells us adequately of the issue:

Now the sons of Eli were sons of Belial; they knew not the Lord. And the priest’s custom with the people was, that, when any man offered sacrifice, the priest’s servant came, while the flesh was in seething, with a fleshhook of three teeth in his hand; And he struck it into the pan, or kettle, or caldron, or pot; all that the fleshhook brought up the priest took for himself. So they did in Shiloh unto all the Israelites that came thither. Also before they burnt the fat, the priest’s servant came, and said to the man that sacrificed, Give flesh to roast for the priest; for he will not have sodden flesh of thee, but raw. And if any man said unto him, Let them not fail to burn the fat presently, and then take as much as thy soul desireth; then he would answer him, Nay; but thou shalt give it me now: and if not, I will take it by force. Wherefore the sin of the young men was very great before the Lord: for men abhorred the offering of the Lord. (1 Samuel 2:12-17)

Eli’s sons didn’t consider the offering and deal with it as holy, as the Lord proscribed. The wickedness is extremely plain in this, as the Lord told Samuel to speak to Eli of – he, as High Priest, did not deal with his sons. And again, Malachi speaks of the corrupting of the offering by rebuking the people and the priests likewise for bringing offerings that are not perfect and without blemish:

Ye offer polluted bread upon mine altar; and ye say, Wherein have we polluted thee? In that ye say, The table of the Lord is contemptible. And if ye offer the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? and if ye offer the lame and sick, is it not evil? offer it now unto thy governor; will he be pleased with thee, or accept thy person? saith the Lord of hosts. (Malachi 1:7-8)

Don’t expect to get anywhere with anything that’s the Lord when you treat it contemptibly! This is the case today with marriage! There are those who believe me to be anti-marriage (note that it’s Feminist Man-Up Rant #234362), simply because I don’t go along with the pollution that Marriage 2.0 represents. Why should I? If anything I’m very pro-marriage (as God intended it) and lament that I can’t have it as God intended. I’m as much anti-marriage as Malachi was anti-sacrifice (I’m sure he had some critics who said that). Why should I support sin? Why should I be wicked and bring what is lame, sick, and diseased before the Lord? Why should I sow contempt before the Lord? Even before I came to see the wickedness that marriage has become, I told the Lord that I don’t want any part of marriage if it takes me away from being pleasing to Him. Why should I offer what is wicked in His sight (Marriage 2.0) and render myself disgusting to Him? Why should I put myself outside of the Lord to man-up and marry the sluts, and support the wickedness that is feminism?

In conclusion, this blog concentrates much on what is wrong with things for that reason. That’s the first step. Don’t expect anything to change until you repent before the Lord and turn from your sin! Marriage as it exists today (Marriage 2.0) will just continue to be the wickedness that it is, and nothing will change unless people turn from it, realize it’s broken as the wicked substitute that it is, and people start upholding Marriage 1.0 as it should be before the Lord.

If anything, take when I point out something wrong (and even right) as an occasion to test your heart through the Word to see if you are right with the Lord. The message is consistent throughout Scripture, yet somehow people keep missing it and missing it:

REPENT! REPENT! REPENT! REPENT! REPENT! REPENT! REPENT! REPENT!

That’s the positive action that is required to begin to change things. Hope that’s clear enough?